Battling bureaucrats from 3969 miles away

12 minutes

•  Joanne Intrator needed patience, expertise in psychopaths and a sense of outrage

•  “It is a faceless bureaucracy”

(TRT 16:55)

This is a story about commercial real estate -- and a tenacious descendant.

It goes back to the 1930s in Germany when the Nazis forced a Berlin family to give up their business and its textile factory.

Fast-forward to the end of the 20th Century and psychiatrist Dr. Joanne Intrator, who picks up the story in this Bizgnus Interview podcast.

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“It is a faceless bureaucracy,” she says of her years threading her way through Germany’s byzantine bureaucracy

Ms. Intrator details her battle with the Berlin bureaucrats in a memoir, “Summons to Berlin.”

During her research into the history of the Nazi theft, she discovered by her family’s textile factory had been used to make Nazi flags -- and one million yellow stars – the same stars that were sewn onto her grandfather’s clothes.

She says her psychiatrist expertise in psychopaths helped her to understand and confront the German bureaucrats, and ultimately gain restitution for her family's building.

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